Sign me up for the class action lawsuit. I purchased my L111 with 5 hours on it. I have a John Deere SST16 transmission is bad and barely move ,I have about 35 others dating from early 60’s to late 70.s. I am all for a class action suit for the faulty manufacturing of the hydraulic transmission on the units. If I could have bought another mower with a transmission like the k66 for under $3,000, I would have jumped on it. I was, and still am, blown away by the power of my upgraded L120! Start engine and adjust the throttle for high idle speed (full throttle). I bought this because it is a John Deere and reading comments in here from some dealers saying that we should realize there are john deere mowers not designed to mow anything rougher that a tennis court make me incensed. Like many others, JD offers Zero fix or repair, only the $800.00 replacement with original K46 transmission. I cannot tell if the sound is coming from the fan itself, the bearing it sits in, or somewhere else, but other than the noise it does not appear to affect the running operation. Hi Everett: It sounds like you were able to restore the power back into your tractor. It took two of us 5 hours (seemed like half that) to remove and install the new Hydrostatic transmission and what a feeling of accomplishment! 2) Can I easily replace the fan? has really been hurt and you would think they would go out of their way to appease those that buy their machines. The person asked my name and left the office and was gone for about 5 long minutes. JD dealership put in a new transmission. He only answered my questions as I walked the line of tractors. My lot is 1/3 acre so it doesn’t get much use. I will be putting it to further testing next weekend with some trail mowing, up and down hills… I have a feeling it will perform just fine! J.D. Took it to a local mower/power sports shop and he had it running like a top for $87. This article is focused on a specific type of transmission: The Hydrostatic Transmission. 3) Can I run the mower with out the fan for a limited time? I bought the mower in 2004 and in 2006 had my first transaxle changed out…. 124 hours! I have the same trouble, as I note that many others have had, with a Scotts L2048 transaxle. I’m looking at a used JD…model GT235…do you know if this model has the Hydro problem…thanks, Nelson. Not my best move. It IS like having a new lawn tractor, but a MUCH more powerful one!! They are not easily identified, as they look similar to the other bolts. Maybe someone can figure that out or tell me what else I should try doing? Their Hydrostatic Drive mowers are a piece of JUNK ! Each repair lasting only a year. All that for a part that should have cost less than $10 failing (a new one came in the box with the new PTO clutch, like they know why you’re replacing the PTO clutch). And at that point we could not locate the spacer so we stopped everything there. NOTHING RUNS LIKE A DEERE – My next mower won’t be green I can promise you that! i have a L 130 and been having transmission slippage took hydro out and replaced filter and old oil helped a lot, not 100% still but a 100% IMPROVEMENT over what it was. Every part of me wanted to tell those potential buyers to steer clear! My upgrade was delivered in two shipments, FedEx Air and Ground. But when the number of comments I’m seeing, and having experience the exact same problem, you can only conclude the products are defective. Small hills become a challange and it slows to a crawl…with the peddle to the floor! It ruined the tranny almost immediately. Would this upgrade kit work for me? choice in the future thankyou everyone. I have replaced all of the bearings on the deck. Terrible news! I was trying to decide if the JD LA145 was enough tractor for the farm when I happened on this message board.. Goes great downhill! My suggestion to Deere is quit all your advertising and bring your products up to par with the advertising budget. I will use this mower for the crap jobs around the farm, since it is no secret that JD does not care about its customers any more. Bend the bottom end of the wire over for that length and solder tip to wire… that is your “Full” mark. Bought heavy duty and only use is cutting grass. Do you have a kit available for the LT180 (2003)? I though i was good buying a Deer. When I finished the upgrade I immediately mowed my lawn and when I was done…..believe it or not…..I was sad that I was DONE!!!!! Not the case, after two hours changing out the old with the new belt , same circumstance; cut 20-30 minutes and no movement. In the picture of the new K66, it seems there is a cap to fill transmission oil near the top of the unit. John Deere, isn’t that supposed to be a brand that builds those great farm implements, My LT150 has the same issue as described. Thanks for the help. I cannot get 10 minutes of mowing with it now. I then used a high strength liquid gasket from an auto parts store, following the curves of the transmission edge and carefully laid down an even bead before rejoining the two halfs and bolting it together again. They have a faulty product and the public is stuck with it. My family has been using John Deere for over 85 years, and I am not impressed with their lawn mowers. I thought that by buying the DEERE I would never need another mower. If your tractor did what you wanted it to do, when new, then it makes good sense to install the K66 Upgrade Kit … it will be even better than new. Roger has the same tractor as I have (JD L130) and he said that he had the same trouble and was going to install the K66 transaxel. No, a True Statement would be that a person looking for a quality mower thinks of John Deere, assumes that they make quality products, explains his needs to a salesman and is told the L will do just fine. I have a 2750 JD with 4WD and the high range (II) does not work, everything Thanks! I do not think it would be a recommended replacement. Once the conversion kit arrived, the most difficult and time consuming part (for me) was drilling the additional holes in the frame (my fault for having dull drill bits). PROTEST BY BUYING A DIFFERENT MACHINE. At this point one thing is for sure, the tractor may spin to a stop but it sure will not stall to a stop. Bought the D170 in May 2017. I am obviously well beyond any warranties. Now it cuts almost 2 acres and couldn’t do it. Now I look differently at every piece of equipment with green and yellow paint. Even according to Deere's specs the hydro transmission loses about one and a half horsepower over the synchreverser. I only got three and one half seasons from my JD. Cutting time for me was about 25 min. Had to push it back to the garage. There now appears to be the transmission problems of loss of power going up steep hills, (the shift handle seems to wnat to push itself into neutral and has to be held in forward gear, esp moving up hills, and when hot.) O.K., O.K., O.K., I’ve read all I care to read about the poor service from the JD “L” line of Lawn Tractors. How do I determine which K66 to buy. The lawsuit should be directed at Tuff Torq. If you do this and get an answer, can you post it here so that others having the same problem will have the solution? I also own a JD lawn tractor from the early 80’s. I found Roger great to deal with and very helpful. (3) 3 product ratings - John Deere 325 335 345 Tractor Tuff Torq K70A Hydrostatic Transaxle Transmission For folks that have Upgraded, I think they will get years of excellent service. Since it was bought at Lowes some years ago I will try to sell it for parts and buy a new or new to me riding mower. I’ll play around with them tonight or over the weekend. If you do not detect any fluid, purchase a quart of John Deere low viscosity transmission/hydraulic fluid and a replacement factory fill plug. I have all the same symptons as everyone else. Kubota, Husqvarna and HydroGear manufacture most hydrostatic transmissions used in the U.S.; their products are installed by Sears in its Craftsman range, and by John Deere. Q: Has this Class Action Lawsuit included people that have tractors with the K46 ? I ended up finding a great mechanical condition 1992 265 with the 17hp Kawasaki and a 48” deck had some scratches but got it for $750 awesome rider built like a tank mows great. That could be the problem, but I would guess that the shift linkage or the shift forks inside the transmission (that shift between low, med and high) are bad, as these were also prone to breakage. up front, I wanted a good piece of equipment, not a toy. Like every one else I thought JD produced a good reliable product. I too have an L111 and would like to purchase one of these kits. I just signed the petition and agree 100% this is not right to have to spend the money that we have to purchase a machine that is supposed to be the “top dog” but instead is a dog when it comes to performance. twice the cost of the new axle, I can buy a new and improved tractor. BS is what I say. MODEL: LA 175 Tractor id: GXA 175A208870 DOM: 052009, ATTACHMENTS: My drive way is at a 30% slope. Please add me to the petition. To no avail. Why has the price nearly doubled in less than a years time? I too bought a John Deere due to it’s reputation. Anyone? Tranny on my lt155 quit today. I’ll think twice before i buy another one. He checked in their system and report there are no recalls or any reported problems like what we are all describing with the tranny on these tractors. I’m sure you guys realize that the needs from Lowe’s, home depot, tractor supply ext. Won’t even make it the driveway let alone my back hill. It’s really bad now and will need to be repainted. Wrote a letter to the CEO, asking why they would bother putting a green and yellow jacket on a product that performs more poorly than a Murray or similar tractor. Boy was I wrong. short life, poor build quality and expensive to fix. I have a John Deer L120 with a defective trans. As you can understand, the price we have to ask for the kits keep going up. I’ve seen a lot of complaints about the L130. Get a size that fits the oil can, described below. It’s so sad that John Deer made such a piece of crap trans. Now taking reservations. It is John Deere that is selling these tractors to the public – they advertise them. I have do the hilly mowing while the tranny is cool but have about six hours of mowing and usually run out of tranny before I am through. JD was willing to pay part of replacement transmission(cost me $284). We think the answer is “Yes, of course.” After the K66 Upgrade, you will have a tractor with a great engine and a strong robust transaxle that is fully serviceable and built to automotive standards. The products at the Dealerships are significantly better and much higher priced. My LA140 is in the process of losing its 2nd transmission. We don’t know if we can obtain a few more transaxles, or not, but if we can, it looks like any additional kits will be priced around $1500, due to the much higher price being asked for the K66’s. All the parts, even the nuts and bolts are neatly bagged and identified. The K66 Upgrade Kit is NOT a “repair kit” for broken/failed K46’s. . Jens. Let me guess .. that wont happen because it will effect your bonus and stock options for a year or two correct? I’m not a mechanic, but before I trash the old transmission, I am intending to “dissect” it and look at the inner guts and see how the two plates (clutches?) Buying the $1800 replacement is not an option as the cost is no longer warranted. Neighbor has Club Cadet and has had it as long as I have had my JD. i took transmission apart in the pump i put small washers under the springs. Add me to john Deere d140 bad trans at 146 hours its my dads mower he is in bad health so Iwill hhandle this problem’s he also took it to grissom s to get repaired they put belt and pulley on it charged 536 dollers to fix it knowing that is a bad transmission and is a known problem !! What TuffTorque Transaxle model or manufacturer would you put on to acheive the “Super 500” upgrade? Well at least i am not alone in this. Oil changed help for about 20 minutes. When ready to put it away had to climb back into the shed, up a small grade, would not climb while sounding like a blender. If I had let events run their course it most certainly would have resulted in a $800 bill for a replacement transmission that would ultimately have the same problem again. La150 junk second trans an it has gone out junk junk junk. In my experience providing K66 Upgrade Kits for failed K46’s, no one ever complains about failed engines or other serious problems … only the transaxles seems to be the weak spot. Nope that wasn’t it. You spend extra money to buy what you think is a quality product and find out that the Murray mower you had before the Deere was the better mower!! ————— Just got done dropping trans out of mower. Tried to change transmission from other mower,they all must be different. You’re kidding right? Refill with 5W-50 Synthetic oil. 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